Hello lansallos,

Apropos your contributions #179 and #180 above, in my opinion at least Mr Guise, the headmaster involved in the notorious Helston Grammar incident was a type 1 teacher who made use of type 3 techniques.  He might well have got away with it, especially if he had not overdone the indignities he inflicted on the unfortunate girls and had punished the boys involved in the post-rehearsal naughtiness as well.

But apparently at least one of the boys seems to have confessed all when confronted with the caretaker’s report and Guise’s MRA (Moral Re-Armament) movement principles  seem to have precluded punishment where an infraction was promptly admitted.  Somehow this was extended to both boys, but not to the girls, who were apparently more reluctant to admit guilt.  And then of course Guise was close to retirement.  He may have overdone the punishment of the girls urged on by subconscious prompts that his schoolgirl spanking days were now very limited.  The rest is history.

The very popular and well regarded teacher you mention threatening first year girls with an over the knee spanking might have been a type 1 who used his status to occasionally indulge in such activities.   But equally he might have had at least incipient type 3 ‘bread and circuses’ tendencies.  With several potential ‘victims’ in the form of the misbehaving first year girls and an audience of other pupils passing along the corridor between classes he may have decided to give the technique a dry run to see how everybody reacted, free of the need to actually implement his threat.

In my day bread and circuses teachers were fairly common.  Even Miss B  who administered my oft related (so I’ll let everybody off this time ) spanked leg was a bread and circuses adherent, though a highly specialised one.  She collected 12 or 15 or so boys and girls from an assortment of classes for minor infractions a couple of times a term when she was on playground duty, lined them up in front of her class, and one by one administered the spankings.  This not only provided entertainment for her own class, provided they weren’t in the queue, but also served to maintain her reputation as a strict disciplinarian.  In fact, as I found the following year in her class she was a very friendly person and a superb teacher.

Alas, in state schools at least, such information as I have access to suggests that the bread and circuses teacher is pretty much a dead duck.  The reasons for the demise are fairly obvious.  The rigid treadmill of the curriculum leaves little time for faux in-class dramatics.  Further, corporal punishment of the mild but embarrassing type was virtually a staple of the repertoire.  It is quite difficult to make a classmate’s detention or negative good conduct mark amusing to other pupils.

I researcher  correctly concludes that the 4 otk recipients at Goresdale were probably of the age group 9/12 and I believe that this is an age when school girls may have been most likely to receive OTK SCP from a male teacher .  Meaning in practice (in the UK) the last years of junior school and the first year( and possibly second )  of senior school .  The OTK spanking of more senior girls by a male teacher such as occurred at Helston was very rare indeed where “normal” teachers  were involved although of course  reports in the press over many years have regularly revealed the exceptions.

In the 50s, the OTK slappings of girls by a male teacher at my junior school was. as I have reported  previously,  far from uncommon  but the target was usually the bare upper thigh .Sometimes just the right one sometimes both. Usually resulting  with the recipient grimacing with pain afterwards. As the teacher was usually seated behind his desk at the time , the desk hid much of the action from view.

For the record similar treatment probably even harder was dished out to young boys in short trousers and I myself was a recipient on a couple of occasions.

Notwithstanding   my peccadillos in later years I found it  a little disturbing and upsetting at the time seeing friends and children I liked being dealt with in this way  and indeed still very  much consider the physical chastisement of pre teens wrong.

I think many state Junior schools were jungles, where too many young and inexperienced teachers had uncertain teaching responsibilities, and classes that contained far too many levels of ability, from kids who were educationally sub-normal (IQ well below normal) to kids so bright, the available education could never do them justice.

I witnessed kids (males) get literally battered by male teachers for ‘disrespect’, kids with dyslexia bullied by teachers who never gained a clue by a girl writing an entire exercise book in mirror writing (dyslexia refers to various forms of pattern processing oddities, all of which relate to how the brain perceives the written form of language- it is far more than “an inability to spell”), and kids terrified during hymn practice. And my primary school was tame compared to so many I’ve read about.

Yeah, the casual SCP was a good slap or two across the naked upper leg- a perennial fav in Primary school, and a continued experience for much older girls too. A non-sexual form of slapping in theory, although as we all know here, plenty of Scottish teachers gained great sexual satisfaction in strapping the hands of secondary school girls. The state pretended that the method of inflicting pain mattered. Those with a classic sadistic impulse didn’t care about the method, so long as the victim had to comply, and the deviant could watch her face.

HOWEVER, just cos a teacher hit, or hit a lot, didn’t prove said teacher was a pervert. My teacher (male) wasn’t wild about hitting, did lose his temper sometimes, and as far as I know now was certainly not a pervert in this sense. But his male colleague, who taught the other senior class in the Juniors most certainly was. He played the role of the strict teacher, constantly threatening girls with spankings. And he did spank girls over-his-knee in the staffroom during breaktime. I never dared get close enough to the window in the door to see who it was or the details – and didn’t have the spanko interest at that time (but did have the opposition to schools using such methods- which obviously I still hold today). Did he lift her skirt? Without a doubt, and no-one would have thought twice- well that’s untrue isn’t it. His fellow teachers would have damned well known what his kink was.

I believe girls at this school even got bare bottom spankings, but ONLY in parent conferences when they had done something truly ‘terrible’. There was one occasion in the second year at Junior’s when the female teacher informed the class of some very naughty girls who had been showing the boys a certain private thing while playing lower down the grassed area, and how they had been very severely punished. Girls, note- not the boys. My brain noted the detail, but it meant nothing more to me at the time than the obvious fact that some of the kids were always misbehaving.

In the last year of Junior’s, that male teacher I mentioned made a point of telling the class that the head had a cane- news to me, and of no significance at the time. Our teacher never sent anyone to the head to be caned that the class was aware of. In lower years, some of the female teachers had used slippers on naughty boys and girls without distinction. They were slippered at the front of the class, and I found it a bore at the time- disliking any disruption to the class.

The other male teacher- the pervert one- was a classic opportunist who created a disciplinary aura. From the types of case that have reach the courts of late, I’d say he managed to fulfill many fantasies, but rarely, and only with carefully chosen girl victims after assessing her parents. Most of the time, I suppose, he had to be satisfied with spanko chat with frightened or annoyed girls, the frequent opportunity to bring a girl to tears with a couple of hard slaps, or the rarer chance to spank a safe victim OTK. At every second he would have known he was walking a very thin line, and the smallest mistake could prove to be ruinous.

Several times I’ve looked at Internet resources for the school. No-one who went there ever bothered to comment on the discipline. I’m not surprised because, as I said, by the standards of the time the school was not harsh, and those that got the worst correction will believe in a very real sense they were the kind of brat that deserved it. In my classes good kids never got hit. I bet that pervert found chances to slap some of the good girls in his class though, but few in later life are traumatised by such happenings in their youth.

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Nov 10, 2023

I think many state Junior schools were jungles, where too many young and inexperienced teachers had uncertain teaching responsibilities, and classes that contained far too many levels of ability, from kids who were educationally sub-normal (IQ well below normal) to kids so bright, the available education could never do them justice.

I witnessed kids (males) get literally battered by male teachers for ‘disrespect’, kids with dyslexia bullied by teachers who never gained a clue by a girl writing an entire exercise book in mirror writing (dyslexia refers to various forms of pattern processing oddities, all of which relate to how the brain perceives the written form of language- it is far more than “an inability to spell”), and kids terrified during hymn practice. And my primary school was tame compared to so many I’ve read about.

Yeah, the casual SCP was a good slap or two across the naked upper leg- a perennial fav in Primary school, and a continued experience for much older girls too. A non-sexual form of slapping in theory, although as we all know here, plenty of Scottish teachers gained great sexual satisfaction in strapping the hands of secondary school girls. The state pretended that the method of inflicting pain mattered. Those with a classic sadistic impulse didn’t care about the method, so long as the victim had to comply, and the deviant could watch her face.

HOWEVER, just cos a teacher hit, or hit a lot, didn’t prove said teacher was a pervert. My teacher (male) wasn’t wild about hitting, did lose his temper sometimes, and as far as I know now was certainly not a pervert in this sense. But his male colleague, who taught the other senior class in the Juniors most certainly was. He played the role of the strict teacher, constantly threatening girls with spankings. And he did spank girls over-his-knee in the staffroom during breaktime. I never dared get close enough to the window in the door to see who it was or the details – and didn’t have the spanko interest at that time (but did have the opposition to schools using such methods- which obviously I still hold today). Did he lift her skirt? Without a doubt, and no-one would have thought twice- well that’s untrue isn’t it. His fellow teachers would have damned well known what his kink was.

I believe girls at this school even got bare bottom spankings, but ONLY in parent conferences when they had done something truly ‘terrible’. There was one occasion in the second year at Junior’s when the female teacher informed the class of some very naughty girls who had been showing the boys a certain private thing while playing lower down the grassed area, and how they had been very severely punished. Girls, note- not the boys. My brain noted the detail, but it meant nothing more to me at the time than the obvious fact that some of the kids were always misbehaving.

In the last year of Junior’s, that male teacher I mentioned made a point of telling the class that the head had a cane- news to me, and of no significance at the time. Our teacher never sent anyone to the head to be caned that the class was aware of. In lower years, some of the female teachers had used slippers on naughty boys and girls without distinction. They were slippered at the front of the class, and I found it a bore at the time- disliking any disruption to the class.

The other male teacher- the pervert one- was a classic opportunist who created a disciplinary aura. From the types of case that have reach the courts of late, I’d say he managed to fulfill many fantasies, but rarely, and only with carefully chosen girl victims after assessing her parents. Most of the time, I suppose, he had to be satisfied with spanko chat with frightened or annoyed girls, the frequent opportunity to bring a girl to tears with a couple of hard slaps, or the rarer chance to spank a safe victim OTK. At every second he would have known he was walking a very thin line, and the smallest mistake could prove to be ruinous.

Several times I’ve looked at Internet resources for the school. No-one who went there ever bothered to comment on the discipline. I’m not surprised because, as I said, by the standards of the time the school was not harsh, and those that got the worst correction will believe in a very real sense they were the kind of brat that deserved it. In my classes good kids never got hit. I bet that pervert found chances to slap some of the good girls in his class though, but few in later life are traumatised by such happenings in their youth.

“… state secondary schools were jungles, where too many young and inexperienced teachers had responsibilities…” I completely agree, and in something as serious as the SCP, only balanced people with impeccable reputations should be able to do it. This is how I lived it, and the time, when I visited some of those teachers in the nursing home, I was able to confirm it.

“…and terrified children during the practice of hymns…” Despite being born in a traditional Catholic family, and having spent all my education among priests and nuns, I never managed to learn a single one of those so for my, incomprehensible prayers. It was a long agony, more than eighteen years, pretending to pray without doing so. I didn’t become a great Christian but I did become an excellent actress.

At my boarding school, there was a lot of non-sexual slapping, meat was one of the worst sins. That was the dominant ideology.
I agree that for a pervert, even more than the possibility of spanking a girl, of doing it even on her panties or on her naked buttocks, the most important thing was that feeling of power, of domination over his victim, of being able to humiliate her. with impunity, seriously scare her. I’m sure it’s ultimately about trying to alleviate her/his personal trauma.

Don’t bother finding statements from those who received SCP, at my boarding school, even though it was something everyday, even now, at the annual student meetings, they avoid the topic, and even if it comes to it due to someone’s insistence, it they deny. Traumas? Of course none of them, let’s be objective, were the times they were.

Like many here, I had the privilege of attending a ‘secondary’ school that was anything but a jungle- all boys. But I’ve watched and read enough about such schools, real and fictional, to be in no doubt about how poor the second stage of schooling was for so many in the UK and other English-speaking nations.

At my boys school the head did cane, never knew of any occasion he did so (one of the actual forms of SCP in the UK- last resort, done by head, happens a couple of times a year total). One or two male teachers would slap really misbehaving kids on the head- witnessed this twice. Once a friend was really pushing it, and honestly the teacher, given the circumstances, was justified. The other time was a six-former- in the six-form facility- during actual A-level time- during whatever you called it when the boys were chilling – getting slapped in the face for ‘cheek’. Never had that teacher- immediately concluded at 18 that the bloke was a psycho. A reason to suspect he may have been something worse, but won’t go into that here. Ours was a very well ordered boys school, and your common or garden pervert had no chance.

Ours was not a religious school per-se but did have the standard religious assemblies and RE lessons. Having disposed of organised religion nonsense at maybe 8, I found such a waste of my time, but no more so than most of what gets dumped on people at school. However I did not bow my head at assembly nor mouth any hymn/prayer nonsense. I’ve never been a normie nor a sheep, and heaven help the soul that thought to clash with mine over this. I was a nice quiet kid who benefited from his education as much as it suited me, but as my posts here may suggest, I’ve never taken rubbish from anyone who sought to persuade me their sad normie indoctrinated believe systems could be imposed on me. Such a will radiates from one, which is why I think they were smart enough to appreciate it.

I’m sorry to say it, but acting weak-willed and being weak-willed can soon become one and the same. Demanding respect can be hard, but it is always worth the effort. But I know it was harder for girls then. Too many believed a ‘difficult’ girl needed to be broken whereas a ‘difficult’ boy needed to be guided.

Irish women and Irish families frequently moved to the UK get get away from exactly this obscenity in independent Ireland after British rule ended there, and the vile Catholic Authorities began their atrocious abusive reign unhindered  by British concepts of Freedom of Conscience and Female Rights. Of course, Church of England schools were some of the most enthusiast spankers of both sexes,

You mention your long grown classmates who deny their mistreatment, but as I said in some other post, this is common. If the abuse is not universally condemned (say like rape or other clear assault), the feeling is that the person has nothing to gain by recalling or reliving their schooldays. So they edit it out. Some (very common) blank out their entire school experience- hating the time when they where subservient to another.

Those of us that have no issue thinking about or relating any aspect of our schooling are actually quite rare, in my direct experience.

I will say this. I received extremely few, and very minor non-class punishments during my schooling, and I strongly resented each one. Also happens I was guilty of nothing each time, but was in the presence of others that may have been misbehaving in a minor way. Yeah, I was just about perfect (which I say with no irony, since it struck me from the beginning that behaving otherwise was counterproductive to me).

I can only guess what would have happened in a Scottish school where some filthy bastard had the right to strap the entire class to enjoy getting his strap across the hands of boys and girls that otherwise he could not punish. I have no internal mercy for monsters. Our kink is for consenting adults and the imagination. But our kink justifies no real world harm. Better still, our kink allows us to burst the bubble of lies told by the teachers that justify beating kids.

Yet some of those Scottish schools were far worse than jungles, and teachers needed to keep order. And decent kids had to attend those rotten evil places as well. Its like an example of hell bursting through into our reality, a hell that innocent kids had to experience.

I’ve read endless online threads where yes, a leading Spanko post got normies to detail many of their experiences of punishment at school. I think Mumsnet still has many such threads. And here you learn exactly why so few people want to think or share such memories. Trolls delight in responding with demands that beating be made legal again in school (they are the issue, not the spanko who gets the discussion started). And when a person lets go and details the rotten horror of their treatment, the pain that their post contains is literally soul burning.

Over and over I’ve seen posts from women, for whom their mistreatment meant their entire compulsory education was one useless abusive hell, beyond learning to read, write and do simple maths. Many afterwards, in their 20s, actually redid much learning at college and finally got somewhere.

One woman, who herself had a relatively decent experience in Scotland (you know, only being strapped to tears maybe a few dozen times in her first five years of secondary school by some sadistic male teacher), related this story, because it so pissed her off. She was in the top stream doing A-levels, and her male teacher, for answering a question wrong, seriously tried to brow beat her into taking a sound hand strapping.

I cannot imagine what it would be like being female, surrounded by dangerous abusive males in positions of authority. I mean those male effers are literally saying “if you are a smart girl, you might as well lean into the kink and try to ‘enjoy’ it, because what other choice do you have”.

And never think the best of an abuser who kept a good poker face, Principal69 (I’ve got to be honest- I really don’t like typing your screen-name – sorry). The most dangerous abusers are those who you look at and say “they cannot be doing this for their own pleasure”. Parents etc may be an exception if their entire parenting, taken as a whole, is a clear loving benefit for the child. But power corrupts and its abuse amuses the corrupted.

Making oneself feel ‘big’ by making another person feel ‘small’ is a complicating psychology in the school system, and transcends the tradition concept of abuse, sexual or otherwise. Hierarchy, one’s position in the pecking order- concepts of respect and position- well they take us to a very problematic space when many participants have no desire to conform to would-be structure.

I mean one presupposes that many teachers began their careers with good intentions, but the first time the class bullies worked so hard to give them trouble, with apparently the rest of the class sniggering in approval, all that went out of the window. Then it becomes the psychology of imposing order on the masses, whatever that takes. And that means any given member of the mass needs to feel smaller than the teacher. And down the slope we all fall.

In the S.T.O.P.P. monthly report was the story of a fifth-form girl, head of class, with no punishments at all for a year (or more), running away from school when told she faced a severe strapping for ‘insulting’ her class form teacher during some class banter.  In the British army, disrespecting a commanding officer in front of others in your unit is a very serious offence too. Loss of face =  loss of authority = danger of mob rule. But how is that principle to the average schoolchild? And yet it justifies so much nastiness at school, even when SCP is banned. Yet if authority falls, and chaos rules, again the nastiness at school becomes awful.

I think there are several factors peculiar to Scottish state schools in the spanking period

1) The tawse was the only instrument of CP allowed
2) It could only be administered to the outstretched hand NOT the buttocks
3) Class teachers were generally empowered to use the tawse, so “sending to the head” wasn’t the norm
4) As a result the tawse was used pretty liberally, admittedly on boys more than girls but I suspect the incidence of girls receiving CP in Scotland was far higher than in England or Wales, and it was not gender-specific, male teachers belted girls and female teachers belted boys according to who had misbehaved where.

So finding Scottish women admitting to having been belted isn’t difficult, I remember seeing on a program like “Antiques Roadshow” someone bring in an old tawse, all the women knew what it was and had been familiar with it being used on them!

BUT I’ve only found the occasional declaration that it was brutal, most seemed to just accept that was the way things were back then and it’s never very long before there are cries of “didn’t do me any harm” and “bring it back”! It might indeed have been brutal but I honestly don’t think that’s the consensus of most recipients nor does it imply a sexually sadistic motive if it were simply the norm in that class/school.

In my experience you are correct neilmc32. The belt never caused bruising and the marks/pain never lasted overnight. Many here have said the cane/paddle did cause bruising and the marks/pain could last for several days so in my view they were more brutal. However the cane was used in some Scottish state schools. You have to go further back to encounter mention of it ie 1940’s 1950’s rather than 1960’s 1970’s. Also schools in more remote areas seemed to use the cane as well as the belt more frequently. I have never been able to establish whether some teachers in these schools preferred the cane to the belt or whether they used both depending on the nature of the offense.

Everyone’s skin type and how they react is different but it’s rare for the cane to leave bruises. Vivid stripes that can last for many days , yes but it would be unusual for bruising. Bruising comes from the more heavy implements , ie: wooden paddles.

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BUT I’ve only found the occasional declaration that it was brutal, most seemed to just accept that was the way things were back then and it’s never very long before there are cries of “didn’t do me any harm” and “bring it back”! It might indeed have been brutal but I honestly don’t think that’s the consensus of most recipients nor does it imply a sexually sadistic motive if it were simply the norm in that class/school.

Well that’s certainly warping reality to suit a personal agenda. Do you think if you scream this falsehood loud enough, they’ll really bring it back? The spanko who honestly conflates imagination with online advocacy, to make fantasy ‘reality’ again is just hilarious. Nobody that matters is fooled. The sado-masochistic impulse in so many Humans of both sexes was documented and accepted long before you were born, and originally almost entirely in the context of inflicting pain in school. Ill-educated normies may not know this today, but everyone that matters in the system does.

Men who strapped girls in Scottish schools got off on it- every last one (for even the gay man can take pleasure in sadistic power play over the female- converting her to a young boy in his mind). Some men who strapped boys did not. Some women who strapped girls got off on it- more for power-play reasons.

And then there’s the all too common fact that if you are a hammer, everything around you looks like a nail. Authority abuse is all too common on this basis.

Did women come out of Scottish schools were they were regularly strapped without complaint.  In normie forums I’ve never found one- never. Did many women choose to put horrid memories of schooling behind them when they could finally escape- certainly, but this ain’t the same thing at all. And does age make many people forget, forgive or romanticise- solid scientific research says YES.

The strap- could it be used in such a way it caused no distress? Of course, but then so can the cane- and many people in their biogs, who had a period as a teacher- remark that the school obliged them to cane, but they only lightly tapped their victims.

The point, neilmc32, that you disingenuously ignore, is that the SAME cane or strap could and was wielded by another teacher to much greater effect. And this was the trick. To those who complained at the time, team-SCP would demonstrate how soft a punishment the cane and the strap gave, because no-one would use said implements full force.

Abusers were given every excuse to hide behind. In reality, when a first attempt was made to survey the use of the belt at Scottish schools, it had to be abandoned because too many kids were being beaten in a week to track- a FACT of history. One of those nasty little facts people like  neailmc32 hope you do not know.

Everyone who studied the use of the belt in Scotland for one official body or another was left simply appalled. They literally could not believe what they were seeing. There is a modern equivalent the racists hope you do not notice- the use of caning in many African schools.

The comparison with Scotland and the belt is identical. And no-one claims the caning that happens in African schools is acceptable, or has no effect on girls. The excuses for caning match exactly the excuse for belting. And victim psychology shows up in Africa too, where many of the victims, girls as well, claim to be in favour of caning, if only it is used more fairly (for class order, and against the most abusive boys). But outsiders who witness the African caning regimes have exactly the same opinion as the outsiders who witnessed the Scottish belting regimes.

Back on topic with the next batch of Merseyside schools that applied CP to female pupils:

Halewood Grange (Secondary) – Halewood

Tina – b1960 – Cane across unspecified anatomy by unnamed teacher – 1971 to 1976
Julie – b1961 – Cane across unspecified anatomy by female teacher – 1972 to 1977

Highfield (Secondary) – Halewood

Linda – b1958 – Cane across unspecified anatomy by female teacher – 1969 to 1974
Christine – b1965 – Cane across unspecified anatomy by female & male teachers – 1976 to 1981
Valda –  b1965 – Cane across unspecified anatomy by female & male teachers – 1976 to 1981

Hillside (Secondary) – Bootle

Jan – b1960 – Slipper across unspecified anatomy by unnamed teacher (group punishment) – 1971 to 1976
Jackie – b1961 – Cane across unspecified anatomy by male teacher – 1972 to 1977

Hudson (Primary) – Maghull

Alison – b1969 – Slipper across unspecified anatomy by male teacher – 1974 to 1989
Sharon – b1971 – Slipper across unspecified anatomy by male teacher – 1975 to 1982
Jodie – b1977 – Slipper across bottom by male teacher – 1982 to 1987

John Hamilton (Secondary) – Liverpool

Vicky – b1964 – Cane across unspecified anatomy by unnamed teacher – 1975 to 1980
Denise – b1965 – Cane across unspecified anatomy by unnamed teacher – 1976 to 1981
Una – b1965 – Cane across unspecified anatomy by female teacher – 1976 to 1981
Paula (A) – b1966 – Cane across unspecified anatomy by unnamed teacher – (1977 to 1982
Jackie (A) – b1966 – Cane across unspecified anatomy by female teacher – 1977 to 1982
Patricia – b1966 – Cane across hand by female teacher – 1977 to 1982
Shirley -b1966 – Cane across unspecified anatomy by female teacher – 1977 to 1983
Coleen – b1966 – Cane across unspecified anatomy by female teacher – 1977 to 1982
Paula (B) – b1966 – Cane across unspecified anatomy by unnamed teacher – 1977 to 1982
Paula (C) – b1967 – Cane across hand by unnamed teacher – 1978 to 1982
Janet – b1967 – Cane across unspecified anatomy by female teachers – 1978 to 1982
Linda – b1967 – Cane across hand by female teacher – 1978 to 1982
Debbie – b1967 – Cane across unspecified anatomy by unnamed teacher – 1978 to 1982
Jackie (B) – b1967 – Cane across unspecified anatomy by female & male teachers – 1978 to 1982
Hayley – b1967 – Cane across unspecified anatomy by female teacher – 1978 to 1982
Maria -b1969 – Cane across unspecified anatomy by female teacher – 1980 to 1982
Joanne – b1969 – Cane across hands by unnamed teacher – 1980 to 1982

Kirklands (Secondary) – Rock Ferry

Beryl – b1944  – Cane across unspecified anatomy by female teacher -1955 to 1959
Lilian – b1952  – Cane across unspecified anatomy by female teacher (Class caning) – 1963 to 1967
Kathy – b1955  – Cane across hand by female teacher -1966 to 1970
Pat – b1955  – Cane across hand by female teacher -1966 to 1970
Marilyn – b1956  – Cane across unspecified anatomy by female teacher – 1967 to 1972
Linda – b1956  – Cane across unspecified anatomy by female teacher – 1967 to 1972
Mo – b1957 – Cane across unspecified anatomy by female teacher – 1968 to 197

Knowsley Higherside (Secondary) – Whiston

Christine – b1954 – Slipper across unspecified anatomy by male teacher – 1965 to 1969
Dawn – b1955 – Slipper across bottom by male teacher – 1970
Chrissie – b1955 – Slipper across bottom by male teacher – 1966 to 1970
Amanda – b1966 – Slipper across unspecified anatomy by unnamed teacher – 1977 To 1982

Litherland Girls (Secondary) – Litherland

Brenda – b1949 – Cane across hand by female teachers – 1960 to 1964
Dot – b1951 – Cane across bottom & hand by female teachers – 1962 to 1966
Trish – b1955 – Cane across unspecified anatomy by female teacher – 1966 to 1970
Monica – b1955 – Cane across unspecified anatomy by female teacher – 1966 to 1970
Paula – b1955 – Cane across unspecified anatomy by female teacher – 1966 to 1970
Doreen – b1955 – Cane across unspecified anatomy by female teacher – 1966 to 1970

Longview (Secondary) – Huyton

Pamela – b1952 – Cane across unspecified anatomy by male teacher – 1963 to 1967
Sue – b1953 – Cane across unspecified anatomy by male teacher – 1964 to 1968

Netherley (Secondary) – Liverpool

Diane – b1959 – Cane across hand by female teacher – 1970 to 1975
Jeanette – b1959 – Cane across unspecified anatomy by female teacher – 1970 to 1975
Karen -b1960 – Cane across hand by unnamed teachers – 1971 to 1976
Christina – b1963 – Cane across unspecified anatomy by female teacher – 1974 to 1979
Julie – b1965 – Cane across unspecified anatomy by female teacher – 1976 to 198
Debbie – b1966 – Cane across unspecified anatomy by unnamed teacher – 1977 to 1982
Mandy – b1967 – Cane across hands by female teacher – 1978 to 1983
Marie -b1967 – Hand across legs by female teacher – 1978 to 1983
Melonie – b1970 – Hand across legs by female teacher – 1981 to 1986
Helen – b1973 – Hand across legs by female teacher – 1984 to 1987

Netherton Moss (Primary) – Bootle

Irene – b1958 – Cane & slipper across bottom by male teachers – 1963 to 1968

New Brighton (Secondary) – New Brighton

Ann – b1945 – Cane across unspecified anatomy by female teacher – 1956 to 1960
Penny – b1945 – Cane across unspecified anatomy by female teacher – 1956 to 1960
Marilyn – b1946 – Cane across unspecified anatomy by male teacher – 1957 to 1961

New Heys (Secondary) – Liverpool

Alison – b1961 – Cane across unspecified anatomy by male teacher – 1972 to 1977
Jayne (A) – b1963 – Cane across unspecified anatomy by female teacher – 1974 to 1979
Lorraine (A) – b1964 – Cane across hand by female teacher – 1976
Donna – b1965 – Cane across unspecified anatomy by female teacher – 1976
Tracy (A) – b1965 – Cane across hand by female teacher – 1976 to 1981
Paula – b1965 – Cane across unspecified anatomy by unnamed teacher – 1976 to 1981
Lorraine (B) – b1966 – Cane across unspecified anatomy by female teacher – 1980
Tracy (B) – b1966 – Cane across hand by female teacher – (1979 or 1980
Jayne (B) – b1967 – – Cane across unspecified anatomy by male teacher – 1978 to 1985
Deborah – b1968 – Cane across hand by female teacher – 1979 to 1984
Julie – b1969 – Cane across hand by female teacher – 1982
Sue – b1969 – Cane across hand by female teacher – 1982
Pammy – b1970 – Cane across hand by male teacher – 1983
Lorna – b1970 – Cane across unspecified anatomy by female teacher – 1981 to 1983

Noctorum Girls (Secondary) – Birkenhead

Paula – b1963 – Cane across unspecified anatomy by female teacher (by mother’s request) – 1974 to 1979)

Olive Mount (Secondary) – Liverpool

Diane – b1943 – Cane across unspecified anatomy by female teacher – 1954 to 1958
Barbara – b1943 – Cane across unspecified anatomy by female teacher – 1954 to 1958
Norma – b1943 – Cane across unspecified anatomy by female teacher – 1954 to 1958

Oxley (Secondary) – Wirral

Wendy – b1959 – Cane across hands by female teacher – 1972 to 1975

Parr (Secondary) – St Helens

Pat – b1950 – Cane across unspecified anatomy by male teacher (Class punishment) – 1961 to 1965
Sheila – b1952 – Cane across unspecified anatomy by male teacher – 1963 to 1967
Susan – b1959 – Slipper across bottom by male teacher – 1970 to 1975
Carol – b1961 – Slipper across unspecified anatomy by male teacher – 1972 to 1977
Julie – b1962 – Slipper across unspecified anatomy by male teacher – 1973 to 1978
Sandie – b1965 – Cane across legs by male teacher – 1976 to 1981
Sue – b1966 – Cane across unspecified anatomy by unnamed teachers – 1977 to 1982

Park High (Secondary) – Birkenhead

Julie – b1957 – Cane across unspecified anatomy by female teacher – 1968 to 1973
Jeanette – b1965 – Cane across unspecified anatomy by female teacher – 1976 to 1981
Tina – b1965 – Cane across unspecified anatomy by female teacher – 1976 to 1981
Jackie – b1966 – Cane across unspecified anatomy by unnamed teacher – 1977 to 1983
Elaine – b1967 – Slipper across unspecified anatomy by male teacher – 1978 to 1983
Sonia – b1970 – Cane across hand by female teacher – 1982 to 1986
Wendy – b1970 – Cane across hand by female teacher – 1984
Karen – b1970 – Cane across unspecified anatomy by female teacher – 1981 to 1986
Tracy – b1970 – Cane across unspecified anatomy by female teacher – 1981 to 1986
Carole – b1971 – Cane across unspecified anatomy by female teacher – 1982 to 1987
Leah – b1976 – Cane across hand by male teacher – 1987

Parkway (Secondary) – Huyton

Pauline – b1960 – Ruler across legs by female teacher – 1973 to 1976
Frances – b1960 – Ruler across legs by female teacher – 1973 to 1976
Pearl – b1961 – Hand across legs by female teacher – 1972 to 1977
Michelle – b1962 – Cane across unspecified anatomy by male teacher – 1973 to 1978
Janet – b1963 – Hand across legs by female teacher 1974 to 1978
Lorraine – b1963 – Hand across legs by female teacher – 1974 to 1978
Debbie – b1963 – Slipper  across unspecified anatomy by female teacher 1974 to 1979
Karen – b1963 – Slipper across unspecified anatomy by female teacher 1974 to 1978
Susan – b1964 – Slipper across legs by female teacher 1975 to 1980
Cheryl – b1964 – Cane across unspecified anatomy by male teacher – 1975 to 1980
Mary – b1964 – Hand across legs by female teacher – 1975 to 1980
Julie – b1965 – Slipper across unspecified anatomy by female teacher – 1976 to 1981
Michele – b1966 – Hand across legs by female teacher – 1977 to 1982

Pensby Girls (Secondary) – Birkenhead

Pauline – b1955 – Bat across unspecified anatomy by female teacher – 1966 to 1970
Gail – b1957 – Cane across unspecified anatomy by unnamed teacher – 1968 to 1973

Rivington Road (Secondary) – St Helens

Dorothea – b1947 – Cane across unspecified anatomy by female teacher – 1958 to 1962
Susan (A) – b1956 – Cane across hand by female teacher – 1967 to 1971
Jackie – b1958 – Cane across unspecified anatomy by female teacher – 1969 to 1974
Judith – b1959 – Hand across leg by female teacher – 1970 to 1975
Diane – b1959 – Cane across unspecified anatomy by female teacher – 1970 to 1975
Kath -b1960 – Cane across unspecified anatomy by female teacher – 1971 to 1973
Linda – b1961 – Cane across hand by female teacher – 1972 to 1977
Denise – b1962 – Cane across hand by female teacher – 1973 to 1978
Susan (B)  b1962 – Cane across hand by female & male teachers – 1973 to 1977
Jane – b1962 – Cane across hands by female teacher – 1973 to 197
Dawn – b1962 – Cane across unspecified anatomy by female teacher & bat & slipper across unspecified anatomy by male teacher – 1973 to 1978
Joyce – b1962 – Cane across unspecified anatomy by female teacher – 1973 to 1978
Gaynor – b1962 – Cane across unspecified anatomy by unnamed teacher – 1973 to 1979
Karen (A) – b1963 – Cane across hands by unnamed teacher – 1974 to 1979
Julie (A) – b1963 – Cane across hand by female teacher – 1974 to 1979
Janet – b1963 – Cane across unspecified anatomy by female teacher – (1974 to 1979
Gill (A) – b1963 – Cane across unspecified anatomy by female teacher – 1974 to 1979
Karen (B) – b1964  – Cane across hand by female teacher – 1975 to 1980
Julie (B) – b1964 – Bat across unspecified anatomy & slipper across bottom by male teachers – 1975 to 1981
Helen – b1964 – Cane across unspecified anatomy by female teacher – 1975 to 1980
Donna (A) – b1964 – Cane across unspecified anatomy by female teacher – 1975 to 1980
Maxine – b1964 – Cane across unspecified anatomy by female teacher – 1975 to 1980
Debbie (A) – b1964 – Cane across hand by female teacher – 1975 to 1980
Tracy – b1964 – Cane across unspecified anatomy & slipper across bottom by female teacher – 1975 to 1980
Donna (B) – b1964 – Slipper across bottom by male teacher – 1975 to 1980
Gill (B) – b1964 – – Cane across unspecified anatomy by female teacher & bat & slipper across bottom by male teacher – 1975 to 1980
Cags – b1965 – Cane across hand by female teacher – 1976 to 1981
Maggie – b1965 – Cane across hand by female teacher – 1976 to 1981
Karen (C) – b1965 – Cane across unspecified anatomy by female teacher – 1976 to 1981
Tracey – b1965 – Cane across hand by female teacher – 1977 to 1981
Jacqui – b1965 – Cane hand by female teacher – 1976 to 1981
Joolz – b1965 – Cane across unspecified anatomy by female teacher – 1976 to 1981
Karen (D) b1966 – Cane across hand by female teacher – 1977 to 1982
Sian – b1966 – Cane across unspecified anatomy by male teacher – 1977 to 1982
Lesley (A) – b1967 – Cane across unspecified anatomy by female teacher – (1978 to 1983
Lynn – b1967 – Cane & slipper across unspecified anatomy by female teachers – 1978 to 1983
Marie – b1967 – Cane across unspecified anatomy by female teacher – 1978 to 1983
Debbie (B) – b1967 – Cane across unspecified anatomy by female teacher – 1978 to 1983
Lesley (B) – b1967 – Cane across unspecified anatomy by female teacher – 1978 to 1983
Jill – b1968 – Cane across unspecified anatomy by female teacher – 1979 to 1984
Julie (C) – b1969 – Slipper across unspecified anatomy by female teacher – 1980 to 1985
Wendi -b1969 – Cane across hand by female teacher – 1980 to 1985
Alison – b1970 – Cane across unspecified anatomy by female teacher – 1981 to 1986
Janice – b1970 – Cane across unspecified anatomy by female teacher – 1981 to 1986
Andrea – b1970 – Cane across unspecified anatomy by unnamed teacher – 1981 to 1986
Julie (D) – b1970 – Cane & slipper across unspecified anatomy by male teachers – 1981 to 1986

Roscoe (Primary) – Birkenhead

Shelagh – b1938 – Hand across legs by female teacher – 1943 to 1949
Pam – b1942 – Cane across unspecified anatomy by female teacher – 1947 to 1953
Irene – b1944 – Hand across legs by female teacher – 1948 to 1955
Pauline – b1950 – Hand across bottom by male teacher (Over the knee spanking) – 1955 to 1961

As always, I’ll provide more details upon request.  Furthermore, once I complete this region I’ll pick some highlights for discussion as there are some cases that I think are of interest.